Sacred Assets, Tough Decisions
Many of us were taught an unspoken deal: Live faithfully, do the right things, and life will work out. In this episode, Amber and Tom gently — but firmly — challenge that transactional model of faith and money with Amy Butler, a pastor, author and founder of Invested Faith. Amy shares how her own ministry journey exposed the limits of “cosmic vending machine” theology and why she believes faith communities are called to something deeper: interdependence. Drawing from her books “Beautiful and Terrible Things” and “Holy Disruption,” she explores how churches can move beyond scarcity thinking and creatively repurpose their assets to fund social enterprises that challenge unjust systems. Along the way, the conversation gets refreshingly practical: why pastors need balance sheets, not just Bible studies; why financial literacy is a form of pastoral care; and why closing or transforming institutions can be holy work. It’s a hopeful, grounded look at how faith communities can steward money, power and privilege with courage, imagination and a little disruption. About Pastor Amy Butler: Pastor Amy Butler has led …









